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Monday, February 09, 2009

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Chris

There I was... atop the jebel... reading Andrew's blog. I thought to myself, "Why am I atop this jebel? And how do I have the interweb here?" But then I realized, "Yeees. But, Andrew's last blog on life in Fes was very cathartic. And I enjoyed it very much."

Maybe one day, I too, will return to that mysterious (and quaint) medina.

Fes.

Bravo buddy.

Patrick Elliot

Fascinating article Andrew (as are all of them.) What I wonder is, if you "heckle" back (nothing confrontational, just the translation of "hey buddy, don't you have anything better to do?" with a smile), what would happen?

Jillian C. York

First of all, thanks for the compliment to my book :)

Ugh, I hate to say this, but I think the British and French foreigners who live in Fez and Marrakesh are totally to blame for that behavior.

I lived in Meknes, as you know, and while I certainly received my fair share of sexual harassment, no one ever once touched me. Nor was anything lewd said, most of the time. The harassment I received (dressing the same as Jacqueline, presumably) was more like "hey kteta" or a low whistle, or "Pretty American girl." That sort of thing.

But in Fez and Marrakesh, where foreigners live as though they own the place (and in some neighborhoods, they pretty much do), it's gotten so much worse.

As to Patrick's response above - I do heckle back, totally. Especially in the aforementioned cities. I learned really quickly how to say "what would your mother think of your behavior?" and ask that. Shames 'em almost every time. The only folks it doesn't work on is the glue sniffers but they'd harass a chicken.

Andrew G. Farrand

Patrick -
Unfortunately our neighborhood seems to have a lot of the glue-sniffing types, or else the residents just have so little respect for Westerners living here that they completely refuse to listen to us. It's frustrating that Moroccans can so easily enforce good behavior on each other by shouting "Hshuma" ("for shame") while a foreigner trying to push some basic common decency in the streets is just laughed at. Like Jillian, I've had some luck with reminding them their mother taught them better, but it's not effective all the time. And of course, my ability to banter back depends on my own mood, something I think I'll address in my next post.

Jillian -
You're right that the situation is really different outside Morocco's major tourist traps. At one time, I'm sure Fes and Marrakech really did embody the "exotic, mystical" stereotype that their names still conjure up, but as you know, today's reality is a whole different story. I hope that some of Morocco's smaller cities which still have their charm don't end up over-run by tourism someday soon. (It's the central irony of modern travel... we all want to visit these far-flung, untouched places, but we all want to be the only one doing it... A thought to ponder for a future entry perhaps.)

Thanks for your comments!

LInda

Dear Andrew, you touched on so many subjects in this post it would take a whole blog post to address them all, and forgive me if this gets too long, but there are two points that answered your own question for you.

First, Fez is unique in that of all the major cities, it is the main one inundated to over-capacity with migration from the surrounding country villages. These people are poor, uneducated and without resources of any kind. It is a huge socio-economic problem with no easy solution and a lot of political history. The hardest hit part of the city is, of course, Fez medina.

Second, drugs and alcohol abuse are a huge problem in Fez, just like everywhere else. And again, because it is a ghetto-area, the medina has a larger concentration of abusers.

One of my neighbors, while discussing the misbehavior of his sons towards my daughter, said he works all day at a hard labor job and comes home late. He doesn't see his kids. His wife is busy trying to manage the housework - and she's pregnant. Neither of them knows how to do anything else and whereas that might have worked in the country, it doesn't work in the city. These kids are growing up on the street just like American ghetto kids - nothing to do and no place to go and learning street survival skills from their peers. There is no cultivation, education, or any kind of supervision.

And finally, just like any other city, there are some areas in Fez medina where perhaps you should not be living. Think about your own city back home. I am sure there are drug and crime-infested neighborhoods you would not set foot in, yet foreigners come here and obliviously buy or rent homes in frightening areas. No doubt, the experience afterward is very unpleasant.

Andrew G. Farrand

Thanks, Linda, for some very good insights.

I wonder about a solution to this negative mix of regional immigration, poverty, low education rates, drug abuse and other factors. Will the government be able to change the situation, engaging youth in more positive activities? Or will religious figures or other social actors intervene? Or is it just a phase in Fes' evolution that will fade away? In any case, let's hope for the sake of the city that the current dynamics aren't here to stay.

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